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Tonight's Lineup (Finally) vs Ducks

Written by Drew on .

I think that the Chief over at A2Y finally poked Khan(!) enough to get him out of his winged wheelslumber.  Here's your lines for tonight's game against the Ducks...

Bertuzzi-Datsyuk-Holmstrom
Ritola-Filppula-Miller
Draper-Helm-Eaves
May-Abdelkader-Maltby

Lidstrom-Rafalski
Meech-Stuartanalogo
Lebda-Janik

Howard (starting)
Osgood

So it looks like we might be getting both Zetterberg and Cleary back together on Thursday.  What to do with Filppula then?  We'll get to that.  I think Bertuzzi-Filppula-Cleary, but we'll see.

And I hope that Leino understands that he didn't play bad against Phoenix.  I don't think anyone views this as punishment.  May is playing because we're playing the Ducks.  Brad May needs to play when we take on Anaheim.  That is, unless Ville won the Finnish Golden Gloves secretly.  Even then I'm not sure he plays.

It's Duck season tonight.

Hated Getzlaf wants to Return vs Wings

Written by Drew on .

While we sit around wondering what the fate of our own superstar is going to be, Miss St. James of the Free Press is finding out the low-down of the competition...

“I felt pretty good, but we’ll see how the day progresses.  Everything is feeling a little bit better, but it’s a matter of how it reacts this afternoon as to whether I can go tonight." --Ryan Getzlaf

"Getslapped" has been sidelined for the past 4 games after cutting himself with his own skate.  Sounds more emo that frat-boy, doesn't it?

The Ducks, mired in 13th place in the West are already without Teemu Selanne, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if if #15 for Anaheim takes to the ice tonight.

Still Waiting on Z

Written by Drew on .

It was rumored that Zetterberg might return to the lineup tonight against the Anaheim Ducks.  winged_wheelZetterberg said yesterday that he would see how his injured shoulder felt after this morning's skate.

Once again, the line has gone dead from our beat writers.  Did the Wings even skate this morning?  I know there's a time difference, but it's 11 o'clocl in Phoenix right now, so the skate should be over.

Personally, I wouldn't mind Zata taking a couple more days to let that shoulder heal.  Having separated a shoulder playing hockey myself a few years ago, I know how painful it can be to get hit before you're truly ready.  Cleary already ruled himself out for tonight's game and aims for a Thursday return against the Kings.

I know we need all the points that we can get, but do you really want guys with injuries playing against the Ducks?  They aren't the goons they once were, but there's still plenty of dirt on that squad to have me feel a little uneasy about a premature return for our future captain.

I'll let you know if I get confirmation.  Until then; stay tuned.

Back to Business

Written by Drew on .

Hey gang.  I'm back to business as usual.  I hope that everyone had a safe and enjoyable holiday season and I do want to apologize again for my lack of posting during my vacation.  I think that Chris did a good job of keeping you folks entertained during my absence.  Hopefully, not too many of you have been scared away.

For those of you who care, my vacation in Arizona went splendidly.  I ate a ton (had to get a membership at a local gym to try and keep the pounds off), I got engaged on New Year's Eve, and I had the pleasure of meeting up with Sullyosis (frequent Red Wings blog commentator/heck of a nice guy) and Jessie from Bingo Bango at Saturday's spanking of the Phoenix Coyotes.  Made it home safe and sound last night and now I'm back to work.

Hopefully, the Red Wings will also get back to business.  Here are the standings as of this morning...

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We've still got a lot of work to do, boys.  The good news: it's being reported that by the end of the month, only Franzen and Lilja will remain on our laundry list of injuries.  The month of January should be a happy one with the return of Zetterberg, Cleary, Kronwall, Williams, and Ericsson.

The bad news is that it appears that Chris Osgood is starting to get a little whiney about his lack of playing.  I suppose it was only a matter of time before the waiting for "STFU Ozzie" would turn into us saying "STFU, Ozzie" (see what I did there with the comma?)  Howie's the man right now.

On another note, on my nice, cold, slippery drive in to work this morning I heard someone on NHL Home Ice say the following (which I am paraphrasing from memory):

"We have enough talent on this team that when certain players don't perform, we have others who can step in and cover for them"--Patrick Kane

Sounds like the Red Wings of last year doesn't it?  Enjoy it while it lasts, Chicago.  The 'Hawks are currently up 13 freaking points on us with Detroit only having one game in hand.  Hopefully, the soldiers we have returning to the front line will help drive this run.  But like I said before, we've still got a lot of work to do.

Mid Season Review - Forwards

Written by Chris on .


What do you write about when there really isn't anything going on in the Wings world that you have the knowledge to write about?  (The WJC are awesome, but it'd be like me writing about the World Series...complete BS.)  So I using two of the oldest tricks in the book.  Stealing from both a prior, overused idea for a list and from someone else...so you know it is time for mid-season grades.

First, go check out Gorilla Crouch, who has graded the forwards (and I will show his grade here compared to my grade) and compared them to a Detroit Landmark.  Draper and Hot and Ready Pizza is greatness. Get over there and read it.

Here we go (GC's grade is first, then mine underlined.)

Pavel Datsyuk: C / B-

He's only on pace for 64 points (I read that somewhere, so its a fact) and he's disappeared a few games here and there.  That's got to be because of age and not because he's had more linemates then than James Cameron's had overrated, predictable movies.  And there is no such thing a slump.  No, it has got to be age...

Tomas Holmstrom: B- / A-

Without Homer's resurgence this year, the Wings would be damn near the bottom of the standings.  He's scored on actual shots that HE took and has looked like the chipmunk we've always loved and knew.

Johan Franzen: INC / Hurt He's Still Better than Meech

Did you know that Franzen has as many points in three games as Meech has in 24?

Hank Zetterberg: B- / B+

Hank has been consistent and is still on pace for a PPG, the only Wing to do so.  He's been solid for the Wings near every game, but still isn't dominating like can.

Todd Bertuzzi: B- / B+

Bert is back baby.  He's second on the team in shots and has taken over games here and there.  This last month has been at A level.

Valtteri Filppula: C / C+

Looks good in his return, now just has to put up the points he should be putting up.

Dan(ny) Cleary: C / B-

Danny, until the inevitable injury, was basically on track for his consistent 40 points, 20 goals season.

Darren Helm: A / B+

I've never seen anything like Helmer's last empty net goal.  He simply pushed the puck behind the Phx D-man and not only skated around him, but was at least a zone away from the nearest defender.  Every day, he gets faster.  But while he's now perfected the EN goal, he has missed at least 20 near wide open nets.  That should come, but for now, that's what is missing in his game.

Kirk Maltby: C / D+

Maltby was scoring a torrid pace at the beginning of the season, but other than his smack talking against Chicago, have you noticed him since?

Kris Draper: C+ / B-

Draper hasn't been scoring, but other than one year, Draper hasn't been scoring damn near all his life.  I bet you could put Draper on a Midget A team and he would end the year with single digits in goals.  But he has been the fast, tenacious Draper that we thought we lost last year and solid defensively.  Can't complain.

Justin Abdelkader: C / C+

He's been good as a fourth liner.  Which makes sense, because that is what he should be right now.  But due to the plague of injuries, he was on our #2 PP and centered our number two line, where he sucked which surprised noone.

Patrick Eaves: B / C+

Eaves was tearing it up for a while right around when everyone and their brother got injured, but since then, he's really been a bit invisible.  Great on the PK though, a big part of its resurgence this year.  I love Eaves, but I don't think he's been doing as well as everyone else has thought.

Drew Miller: B / B+

He's been one of the fill-ins that I've been consistently impressed with.  A little goal scoring touch and hard work.  He's another fourth liner, but hasn't been terrible playing scoring minutes.

Brad May: C / D+

I liked May when he first was picked up by the Wings, but in the past month or two, he's done nothing.  Hasn't protected anyone, hasn't fought for the team, hasn't scored any goals that were a clearly in, but taken away.  I'd rather have Downey right now, at least he hit everyone, even if he couldn't skate or shoot.

downey

Ville Leino: D / D+

He's been both snake bitten and lazy, never a good thing.  I still think he could be a 20 goal scorer in the NHL if and when he gets things rolling.  I do not like to see Babcock sit him right after he compliments his hard work.  Talent-wise he's better than everyone other than Dats/Z/Bertuzzi/Fil up front.

For the most part, I've been a nicer grader than GC, but there were a few players we really disagreed on.

And here's something stolen directly from Gorilla Crouch, highlighting perfectly whats been going on over at A2Y.

A2Y has been raising money to bring a Red Wings fan from Brazil to Detroit to see his first live game. It looks like they’ve raised enough money to get that party started and cover the costs of the collateral damage that is guaranteed to ensue, so any additional money they raise will be donated to a very worthy cause: the Children’s Hospital of Michigan. If you are willing and able please take the time to visit this link and kick in a couple dollars or whatever you can.

 

NHL Blog-Off - The Finals

Written by Chris on .

Drew has informed me that the Nightmare has made the final the last round of the NHL Arena Blog-off.  So apparently that's a good thing (we will represent the Wings in some way on some website...and that is all I know), so I'm asking if you guys like the blog, click here to vote for NOHS.  The other contenders are great as well, so no harm either way.

nhlarean

Multiple updates should resume tomorrow, as Drew gets back from post-apocalyptic United States (aka Arizona).

Wings - 4 Puppy Dogs - 1

Written by Chris on .

It isn't very often you get a night-of recap here at NOHS (due to the fact that Drew goes to almost every game and meets his quota of at least three 24oz Molson XXX and I'm way too ADD past the hour of 3 PM), but damn, that was a fun game to watch.   Detroit played fairly well, but most notably took advantage of their chances (I like that...less blue balls for all) and when they fell apart, Jimmah was there in the net, shutting down almost everything Bettman's Coyotes could fire at him.  It is two huge points in the standings which puts them 3 points out of 8th place with a game in hand.  In addition, they are only six points out of fourth place with two games at hand.

standings

By the way, the Wings would find themselves in 6th place if they played in the lessor conference out East.

Random Thoughts:

  • Where would we be this year without the team chipmunk, Tomas Holmstrom?  15 goals for the Swede, still leading the team.  By the way, how the hell doesn't Homer have a real nickname?  Or did I miss it?  So much potential...

  • I didn't realize how injured the team was (well I did, but this put it in persective) until Val came back a few games ago and made Miller and Abby look like the fourth liners that they should be right now.  It still kills me a little to think that our #2 powerplay is Abby, Ritola, Miller/Eaves, with Meech and Lebda on the back end.  That would struggle to be powerplay in Midget hockey, let alone the Wings.  (Remember #2 last year?  Franzen, Hossa, Hudler, Kronwall, Sammy...ok, forget about Sammy, but still.)

  • Turns out Anders Eriksson is NOT dead.   He's literally been on 13 different teams in the past decade and somehow is sticking around.   Loved how he said he was taking it easy until he got the call from PHX and told them it'd be a few weeks before he was in shape.  Guess that fatass nickname was valid.

  • Jimmy Howard is not only beginning to look like the team starter for the regular season AND playoffs, he's also starting to be a serious contender for the Calder Trophy.   Has there been another rookie this year that has meant as much to their team as Jimmah has to the Wings?  Right now, if we have regular season Osgood instead of Jimmah, we aren't waiting to get healthy to make a run for it, we are in contention for the lottery pick.

  • Random, watching the Edmonton game and boy, do they ever need a goaltender named the Bulin Wall to return. 

  • Speaking of Osgood, he's not too happy about sitting.  He had an interesting response to Babcock saying that he is going to play whichever goalie is playing better.   Per an interview with digger Chris McCosky (via A2Y):

    "I don't think I have to prove that. I know how to play, I just have to play -- that's all there is to it. It's not a matter of earning an opportunity. You have to get into some games and get into a groove and then I can play like I can. It's not that I don't know how to do it. "But if you don't play, it's impossible to get to that point. I'm a goalie,

OK, and I've been playing for 20-some years since Juniors. What I say (about goaltending) is closer to the facts than what he (Babcock) would say."

And:

"The games that I've played, I don't think I've played badly. I feel like I've played pretty good. The third goal in Chicago was a bad goal, but I played real good in the third period.  "I don't feel like I should not be playing."

  • First off Osgood, come on man, you aren't Chris Pronger.  It is "real well," not "real good."  

    And more importantly, the main point.  I'm a stupid goalie as well and can sympathize with you a bit.  I have a story that is a little like yours.  In college, I was the starter for my first 3 years.  Going into my last year, a new guy comes in and gets most of the starts right out of the bat.   The season prior, I was named to the all-region team and thought my place was secure as the number one guy.  It clearly wasn't and I was pissed. The other goalie was good, but I never felt I lost the spot and didn't know why I wasn't playing.   I barley got any games at first and when I did, I was rusty and played, at best, average.   I struggled for the entire first half the season.  Finally, over the X-mas break, I finally got over myself.  I realized that no matter if I deserved more of a shot or not, I needed to take advantage of whatever games I got.  I pulled it together, took advantage of a couple chances and got my way back into the net, enough to be the starter for the second half of the season again and made it back on the all-region team.  (Damn, I miss college...well I guess I am still in college: round 3, but you know.)

    What does this have to do with you Osgood?  Get over yourself, soon.  You've been a good goaltender in the playoffs for the Wings, but that's all the past.  And you did earn something with your past play.  You earned a chance to start the year as the #1.  But it wasn't that Babcock magically or unfairly took it away from you.  You lost that spot to a goalie that has simply done one thing and has done that one thing consistently.  That one thing is this: he's completely and utterly outplayed you on a nightly basis. 

    But you aren't all wrong.  You aren't far off that you have played pretty good (well compared to last year's reg. season).  But that won't cut it.   We need great now and if you can't provide it, then you can sit on the bench.  And if you don't realize this, then that is where you will stay.  And with that attitude, that is where you should stay too.  

    Now I'm always thought Jimmah was a talented goaltender, but he will falter eventually and you will get a game or two.  So you'll get your chance.  Who knows, maybe it is this year that we see what Osgood really has once he does.  
  • I was planning a post to call out Bertuzzi haters everywhere, but this will do.   He's simply been great over the past month.  Datsuyk's goal was almost entirely off his hard work in offensive zone.   He has 11 points in the past ten games, and that includes three games where the Wings as a whole were shutout.  So you haters, repent now or Bert will go all Steve Moore on you...
  • Oh yeah, lately, Datsyuk has been also been giving a big "F' You" to everyone who was calling him out for having an off year.  I'd still rather have Datysuk than Crosby any day of the week.  Snipe Snipe bitches.
  • It should be illegal how fast Helm is. 

The Triple Nightmare Deke on Helm Street Red Wing Players of the Game:

  1. "Jimmah" Howard - Simply outstanding.  Made at least 4 saves that should have been goals.  This kind of performance will help my fantasy team out tremendously.
  2. Nick Lidstrom - He's heating up.  Another two point night which makes for six points the past three games.   Heading back on track for #7?  Just saying...
  3. Bertuzzi/Datsyuk/Homer -  Seriously, all three of them should have stars, they all had great games.  So they will.  Report me, I dare you.




Damnit Lebda.

Searches

Written by Chris on .

So playing on Google while watching the Winter Classic, I noticed Google hot trends matched up with something I was searching.  After clicking it, it showed that hockey related items dominated the searches. Here's the most popular searches on Google for the USA (not including Canada).

1. Bobby Orr
3. Bobby Clarke
4. Drop Kick Murphy's
5. Fenway Park
12. Winter Classic
16. Stealth Bomber

Here's a screen cap of the whole list.

hot_searches

 

A Christmas Callout - Part 1 - The NHL & Colin Campbell

Written by Chris on .


On behalf of Drew and myself, I apologize for the lack of posts here at the Nightmare for the past few days. A combination of travel for the both of us is the main culprit, but you could also blame a little burn out on the internet, a puppy, and a new phone that I’ve spent way too much time playing with lately. Anyways, during this time, it isn’t that I haven’t been following the team and the happenings on the internet. Almost everyday I get the urge to post about one topic or another, but laziness prevails.

Thinking about it now, it turns out I am an angry, angry man. Almost everytime I want to put together a post, I want to call someone out for being an idiot. Finally, I’ve gotten to it and there will be a few more popping up here and there. So here it is, the first Christmas Callout (or the beginning of NOHS’ New Years Airing of Grievances.)

The NHL & Colin Campbell

Much has been written about the gongshow that is the NHL and its suspension policy. Puck Daddy’s Greg Wyshynski, someone whom I feel that, unlike a few other excellent Wings bloggers, does a great job finding stories to write about each and everyday and making those stories interesting and somewhat impartial (but, haters, don’t worry, I do have a beef with him later on), has well documented this in multiple posts. It is clear that the NHL has no actual policy or reasoning for suspensions and really does seem to play favorites, not only with players, but with teams as well.

It’s embarrassing to try and defend the NHL to the college football retards down in Ohio when the NHL doesn’t have a clue what should and shouldn’t be allowed. Is fighting in the last five minutes a automatic game misconduct? Are hits to the head allowed (Yes? Maybe no?) What is the point of a suspension, to punish the player or to rehabilitate? Should injuries be taken into account and if so, why? Right now, the NHL doesn’t have an answer to a single one of these questions, and that, my friends, is utter –incompetence.

A Possible Solution

So Gary, I’m going to do your job for you here. Here’s a quick and dirty solution that will, at the very least, help. I’m not saying that it will fix everything and there will always be bitching in some form, but the NHL right now has a policy that confuses players, fans, coaches, children, librarians, law professors, and puppies. In fact, only one person to has actually been able to figure out the NHL’s current policy for suspensions (warning, link is pure genius). If nobody understands the policy, then what is the point of it? So here is a quick and dirty recap, with no details provided. Gary, you gotta earn a little of that $7.1 million a year, so you get working on the details. WARNING: I’ve applied a decent bit of legal theory to hockey situations below….

First, start over from the beginning by firing Colin Campbell. Get rid of all previous notions of what a suspension is. Simply put, this mean that Colin Campbell has to be let go of his position. If simply for the outward appearance of change alone. I would fire you too Gary, but if you must keep your job, then, fine. Campbell must go.

Second, adequately define the rules. You can’t have wishy-washy “I know it when I see it” BS. Players have to know when they enter suspension territory. Is a headshot illegal? Yes or no? Figure it out. Now. Should there really be an automatic game misconduct for all instigators in the last five minutes? I’m not arguing in this post for either way. But choose and stick with it. You can’t resend something like this because it is the Stanley Cup finals. If you want it automatic (basically strict liability, as you take the risk), then it is automatic. The suspendable penalties have to be clear, definite and open to as little interpretation as possible I would argue for different categories of suspendable penalties as well.

Third, decide what the goal of the suspension is and why is the punishment is given. Is a player suspended because he chose to commit a dangerous act and therefore he deserves to be suspended and punished? Or is it for the betterment of the game and thus we are hoping to improve the future of the game using suspensions as deterrence and for the rehabilitation of violent players (the current best example of this is rehab for a certain someone from saying, uh naughty words) .

This distinction between the two schools of thought of reasoning for the punishment matter. If we are using deterrence as the main reason for suspensions, then the suspension given must be enough to deter that act in the future. Otherwise, what is the point? If a two hander to the fact is only a one game suspension, then maybe it is worth it to a player to slash someone in the face. If a deliberate elbow to the head were a ten game suspension, then maybe a joke of a captain would choose restraint in the Stanley Cup playoffs rather than try and hurt the opposing team’s best player. In this approach, we would look to see if a person is a repeat offender, as it shows the player is more dangerous to the league as a whole and it may make the league safer to have him out longer.

If rather, you are suspending a player someone because want to punish them for their choice to break the rules, then the league has a duty to suspend the player, as he is gaining benefits of playing in the league and is not following the restraints. For this approach, the punishment must fit the infraction (as that is why we are suspending the person) and the fact that one person is a repeat offender doesn’t matter for the punishment.

Now, notice for either approach nowhere do we look at the injury of the other player in determining punishment. It simply doesn’t make sense in either approach taken. If two players commit the identical act, why should one be punished while the other not simply because of how the other reacts? A hit from behind is a hit from behind. The fact that one player managed to put his hand up to protect himself from injury, while the other player didn’t causing a major injury isn’t related at all to the offending players’ actions. The one approach wants to deter the act. The other approach to punishment wants to punish the act. Nowhere do we look at the harm the act actually caused through fluke, but we should rather look at the act generally to see what harm the act potentially or usually would cause and apply punishment based on that idea. Otherwise, varying punishments will prevail for identical incidents.

Fourth, set up standard punishments for each infraction. This is an extension of the second step. For example, maybe have deferent levels of checking from behind. Maybe a normal check from behind that otherwise would be legal is a one game suspension. Maybe a check from behind that would be a charge is a two game suspension. A check that is a charge with intent to injure (which would be decided upon in the next step) would be a 10 game suspension. And so on and so forth. If deterrence is the main point of punishment, then figure out how a system to apply repeat offenders (maybe something like 2x the punishment or something) Again, just throwing random numbers out there as examples. Hell set up like the criminal law system in degrees. The first example would be checking from behind in the 4th degree. The second one would be in the third degree. Simply do something so it doesn’t look like you are picking numbers from a hat. The NHL has lost its right to use discretion.

Of course, the amount of suspension should be applied to the offense using whatever theory chosen from above. So if deterrence was the point, maybe a one game suspension would be enough to deter players from checking from behind. Maybe not. But the league would have to do its best figure it the right amounts for each offense and have that offense on the book.

Fifth, apply the charge to the offending player using a committee. Basically, the first step is to take away one person’s arbitrary power to assign suspensions around the league. The league could create a five person committee, comprised of whomever (though maybe allowing the NHLPA to chose two or three members would make sense to foster a cooperative relationship) to decide which offense (and degree) applies to the player charged. I would argue for a majority rules sort of decision and a simple explanation from each committee member released to the public for their choice, stating why they felt each element of the offense was either met or not met. This would give a little accountability for decisions. Again, it cannot be stated enough that the injury should not affect the committee’s decision. So there, Gary, is a way you can return a little respectability and maybe order to the NHL’s discipline policy. Because, right now, anything is better (though admittedly not funnier) than what you have going right now.

Suggestions and issues with my plan are totally welcome.  Gary, if you are listening, feel free to leave a comment in the comment box.

Anyways couple of other topics I might have coming up, depending on time, are callouts of: Puck Daddy and The Hockey Media in General, KuklasKorner (not much of one, don't worry), Bertuzzi Haters, Humor Magazines, and Chicago, the entire damn city.

Tonight's Lineup vs CBJ

Written by Drew on .

Hey gang.

Well it's been a busy holiday season thus far. The people here in Phoenix have been complaining about the cold. It's been like 60 and sunny every day. Anyway, the Wings won and I followed along the best I could (auto updates on my phone via ESPN). But in a half an hour, they'll actually be on TV out here and I get to watch. Here are your lines via Khan(!)...winged wheel

Bertuzzi-Datsyuk-Holmstrom
Ritola-Filppula-Miller
Draper-Helm-Eaves
May-Abdelkader-Maltby

LIdstrom-Rafalski
Lebda-Stuart
Meech-Janik

Howard (starting)
Osgood

Missing from tonight's lineup (to no one's surprise) is Ville Leino. Mike Babcock had the following advice for Matias Ritola...

“He better shoot the puck and he better not be on the outside.''

 

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