|Illitch and Chelios were scheduled to meet with Ryan Suter today. They’re set to land at DTW at 5pm.
Sheehy told MLive.com on Saturday: “We (he and NHL general managers) all know each other, so there's nothing meeting face-to-face is going to accomplish, at least initially. If Ryan is uncertain, that (meetings) could come into play.''
-@AnsarKhanMLive & MLive
Looks like Suter wanted to know a little more from Detroit and Detroit provided. Please let it be good news.
BTW, Khan(!) reported that the initial offer was 7.5 per year for 12 years. I'm ok with those terms.
Update: Want to be a huge nerd? You can follow the flight here.
Please just let it be NEWS. Something, anything, CHRIST!
I'm okay with the 7.5 but 12 years? Yikes, that's a lot. I knew to get him we would have to over pay but committing to someone for 12 years is such a long time. To me, only a few players in the league are worthy of that length of contract.
@marti783 He can have $7.5 million a year for 7.5 million years for all I care...
@garth I'm glad you're not our GM lol.
@garth I just took it to mean that teams are paying more for top tier players because of contracts to non top tier players like Gomez. Maybe I was wrong but that's not what our original discussion was about anyway.
That's some interesting comprehension you have. Cheeselord's point was that teams are paying more for average players? Because the words he actually used were that top tier players are getting more.
@garth My friend, you are all over the place right now. My comment about teams making "those contracts" had nothing to do with the LENGTH of the contract. I was simply replying to Cheeselord's point that teams are paying more for average players per year, therefore paying more for talented players. It was a totally separate point I was making. It has nothing to do with the length of contracts that we were discussing earlier. The fact is, IMO, we're seeing a lot of teams over pay for very average players partly because they have money to spend and partly because they're just bad decisions.
Now, on to the length of contracts....it's a very simple concept. The longer you GUARANTEE to pay someone, the higher the risk. I believe they teach that in Sports Team Owner 101. And it's why you don't see a lot of 10+ year contracts. Unless, like you said, they believe they're a "cornerstone" player.
@marti783 Really? There are currently 14 contracts over 10 years, according toe capgeek (actually, capgeek only has 13, they don't have't Quick's contract up there yet). 3 are on LA, who just won the cup. Two are on Detroit, who made the finals the year Detroit gave out those two contracts. Two are on Chicago, who won the cup the year those contracts were given out. One is on Tampa and it was given out the off-season after winning the Cup and who had a pretty good playoff run a year ago, coming within one game of the Finals. One is on Jersey who made the finals this year and one is on Vancouver who made the finals last year. Two are on Washington, who are a middling team but have consistently made the playoffs. One is on the Isles, a team run by an idiot, and one is on Buffalo, a team run by someone who thinks he's Glen Sather.
So out of all those teams, one hasn't made the playoffs since giving out one of the worst contracts ever, and one hasn't made the playoffs in ONE year since giving out that overinflated contract. All the others have had success in the post-season.
@Cheeselord @garth Alot of the teams that have those contracts tend not to make the playoffs or have too much success. Terrible decisions on their part
@marti783 Why too much.
Under the cap the teams are actually set to benefit from the fact that their star players can't up and demand more every 2-3 years. Plus it gives team a much needed sense of stability so they can plan for the future rather than have a revolving door of players.
7.5 will look like 4.5 does now, 7-8 years down the road.
@magnum9 It's always riskier for the team with long contracts. Why do you think players typically sign those over shorter ones? Remember, your committing to someone for more than a decade. That's a very long time and it's hard to guarantee consistent production. Everyone keeps saying how little 7.5 will look by then. How do we know the salary cap is going to continue to rise??? Hell, we haven't even started negotiating the new CBA that's due to expire in...2 months is it?
@garth @magnum9 I'm sorry, I forgot a word. Players would RATHER sign long term contracts over short term. I'm pretty sure that indisputable. Would you rather be guaranteed money for 5 years or 13 years? What would you pick? And I wouldn't be making contracts based on the idea that you can trade them to a low payroll team if it doesn't work out.
@marti783 @magnum9 Hold up, hold up. Since when do players "typically" sign longer contracts rather than shorter? If you were to average out the number of 10+ year contracts, there's MAYBE one per team.
These deals aren't even offered to players unless they're seen as cornerstones, and they're not overly risky for teams because there will always be teams trying to make the cap floor who would be happy to take a Marian Hossa $5.3M cap hit while actually paying out $1M.
Nevermind that in ten years the league will have gone through probably two new CBA from the one we currently have, so the rules can definitely change.
@marti783 Suter might be one of those guys. Think, in 12 years, 7.5 isn't going to be much.
@moorecha Well it depends how much he is producing. There's a lot of unknowns coming up with the CBA. No doubt, as hockey continues to increase in popularity, the salary cap will continue to rise but how much? I can't see it increasing enough to where 7.5 cap hit is not much. If he's producing at the end of his contract then this is all a moot point but he'd be close to 40 by then and there's only one D-man who can produce like that at 40, and we all know who that is.
@marti783 Only a few worthy maybe, but we might as well get used to it. This is what players want, and if you aren't willing to play ball, then you are going to end up with an AHL team in the NHL.