The Red Wings franchise turned 85 today. Last night they played like it. Something needs to change with this team. I think firing the coach is out, so it will have to be a trade.
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This post will likely make me sound insane and make you hate me as I consider the possibility of trading someone you like. Just hear me out. By the way, I used a picture of Hudler in a post involving trades just to see if I could get Chris to punch me through the internet. I'll keep you all posted.
If it was up to me, the following players would be a lock to stay in Detroit:
After that, let a trade happen as long as we get something decent in return. Franzen has the potential to be a 40 goal scorer if he stays healthy, but he's streaky. When he's off, he's way off. I would support trading Mule if we got a known 40 goal scorer in return. Someone like Rick Nash or Jerome Iginla. Of course, we'd be adding some cap hit by taking on guys like that, so I'd also like to see Big Rig go along with Franzen so Mule doesn't have to carry his own bags. to make the trade even better for us. to sweeten the pot.
What it comes down to is, we don't have a consistent goal scorer right now. What we do have is a bunch of guys who are slumping. In order to wake them up, something has to rock the franchise. I've grown very attached to all of these guys, but i'd rather see the team win the Stanley Cup with the help of a couple "outsiders" than watch them line up for another depressing round of handshakes in May.
They have shown that they have what it takes to win games and beat good teams, but not consistently. So far this year, they've become a team of Robert Langs. I know it's only November, but last month it was only October. Next month it will only be December.
So here's my question for you:
If you could make a trade, who would go and who would you bring in? I'm talking about the type of trade that rocks the league and makes everyone take notice. Not grinder for grinder, or 3rd round pick for a 5-6 defensemen. I mean crazy stuff like Franzen, Ericsson, Ferraro and two 1st round picks for Ovechkin. Show us what you've got.
Option #1- Ericsson+Franzen for Iginla. This is a hard time of the year for big trades (as teams with no chance delude themselves into believing), but Iginla has been on the outs with Calgary for a while now so I think this might actually happen.
Option #2- Ericsson+Franzen for Spezza (Ottawa). That might surprise you as a suggestion, but look at his consistent numbers on that team, though admittedly he used to play with a sick top line there (http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8469455#&navid=nhl-keymatch). Also, RHS.
We could definitely use another scorer or legitamate top 6 forward. SJ has the best top 6. I mean every one of their top 6 forwards is a threat. But, in all honesty, if Pav and Z are playing like they can, I still think we can compete with SJ and beat them - especially with how well we've played defensively this year. My concern is beating teams that play all defence and wait for us to make a mistake. Teams that win games because they outwork their opponent. Teams that force us to dump and chase. I feel like we can beat teams in a game of skill vs skill (assuming Pav and Z get their games back), but its these trap till you drop games that concern me.
And in all liklihood, we'll probably play a team like that in the first round - PHO, STL, NASH, etc. Yes, Stl sucks, but they work hard and trap like hell. And if our PP isn't going to get us out of trouble, we're screwed.
I completely disagree, and thats a rarity for me. Look at the games we've won and it's obvious this team CAN dominate. Unless you can trade for will to win I'm afraid this is a load.
That's a tough one. To be able to get anything substantial in return you would have to give up Franzen, or maybe Filppula and a package. Both are our best forwards at this point and Franzen dominates in the playoffs.
I say either Franzen + Ericsson to Buffalo for Vanek
Filppula + Ericsson + Mursak + Conklin + 1st rounder for Vanek and Miller (he's playing like crap)
Actually posting a reply to an earlier comment, Anaheim's top forwards? There are three of them, the team has never really accomplished anything with them in the playoffs, they are all RHS, and they certainly need to add depth. We might be able to shop around for a sidegrade trade or two decent for one of them...
@Reddy well, the idea is not to make the team better, but to wake them up. i agree that they dominate when they play hard, but they've slept through half of their games. a trade would be that wake up call.
Filppula + Ericsson + Mursak + Conklin + 1st rounder for Ovechkin. Would never happen.. but hey... want to shake things up... do it to it.
@Reddy that came across wrong. i do want them to become better through a trade AND wake them up. not just give up a guy for nothing in order to motivate them.
@Josh Howard@Jordan_Reis Ovechkin hasn't delivered a cup yet, and he has been underperforming so far this season. I don't think a trade for him would be absolutely out of the question as long as it got them two up grades for other slots and a prospect + draft pick. The guys you listed aren't likely to bring that though.
Switch out Franzen for Filppula (they need someone to still score some goals, which Fil doesn't) and replace Conks with a 3rd Rd. pick, and I wouldn't say it is out of the question. Still prolly wouldn't happen though...
@Twig@Reddy I would like to see an upgrade too, but especially at this point in the season, we are probably looking realistically at a sidegrade trade (see: Heatley and Havlat, though I don't know for sure that was a sidegrade) or two good players for one great player in a team looking to add depth (see: Anaheim).