So barring a major development, according to Ken Holland, this is the team we are going into battle with. He’s comfortable with this lineup:
Datsyuk – Zetterberg – Homer
Bertuzzi – Filppula – Franzen
Hudler – Abby – Cleary
Miller – Helm – Eaves
Mursak – Emmerton – Draper?
Lidstrom – Kronwall
Stuart – White
Commodore – Ericsson
It’s certainly a strong line-up and a full roster as well. Now that isn’t to say that I would have sat on it and Kenny might not either. I think if two players come available, we should be going after them. First is my consistent suggestion that the Rangers buy out Wojtek Wolski and the Wings pick him up. Do it Sather.
But even more interesting is the following email I got from DetCapC19:
Noticed that Buff is like $2.4M over the cap. What are your guys' thoughts on Boyes? $4M cap hit, last year on his deal, RHS. If we swapped him for Hudler (a cap savings of $1.125M for Buff), would that be something that interests you? I'd like to see a line of Franzen-Fil-Boyes go at it.
I keep hearing though that they need to trim cap space and Boyes is the most likely candidate. However, I’m also reading that nobody wants him at his $4M cap hit. The problem with his deal is that it only saves the Sabres $1.125M.
I agree with the man, I love this idea. I’m one of the few, the embarrassed, the Happy Hudler fans. I think we don’t trade him unless we can get something worth it. But I think this trade works for both teams. Boyes is a bit over paid right now, but cap space is something we have plenty of. Just a few years ago he scored over 40 goals. I don’t think he’ll even get 30 anymore, but even 25 would be great. Buffalo gets closer to the cap limit and still gets a decent return with a player with potential for 60 points a season at a reasonable cap hit.
I think this should be a go for it if it's available type of move.
I'd like Boyes, but if we could get Malone instead that would be better in my opinion. Malone only played 54 games last year in the regular season, but he still tallied 14 goals and 24 assists, equaling 38 points. A perennial 20-25 goal scorer shall we say? Not bad, but not amazing. What he brings to the table however that I don't see in Happy or Boyes is the physical grit and size that will help him score goals down low.
He is a physical player and will play as such. He's also a natural left wing, so with that lineup you have there Chris we could easily drop Bert to the third line. This is all assuming we trade Hudler for him.
Good determination and strength. I'd take him over Boyes and Happy.
I don't actually think the line up is finished. Sure, Ken Holland said that he's happy with the roster, but he also said he was happy with Osgood as the back up and that he was happy with the defense between signing Commodore and White.
I find it hard to believe that Hudler will start the year as a Red Wing if only because everyone with a passing interest in hockey knows that Holland has been trying to deal Hudler since before the draft. Knowing that, you have to think that having him at camp would be a bit od a distraction, no?
I like the Boyes trade from a Red Wings pov because I don't share the optimism that some of you do about Happy bouncing back, but I can't imagine it happens because Buffalo needs more than just a little of a million in relief, and I'm sure they'd prefer to become cap compliant in one move rather than trading off a few players to do so.
I like Boyes because he's a RHS and would only cost us another $1.125M if we swapped him for Happy. Here's another one to consider:
The Boston Globe thinks that they may shop him to shed some salary now that Lecavalier, Stamkos, and St Louis are occupying so much of their cap space.
http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/bruins/articles/2011/07/24/recchi_has_plenty_to_occupy_his_time/?page=full (scroll down towards the bottom).
His scouting report is as follows: http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/hockeynews/hockey/player.cgi?2918
ASSETS: Has impressive size and strength, which he uses effectively in front of the net. Is accomplished in the defensive zone, kills penalties and provides plenty of leadership. Can play any forward position.
FLAWS: Tends to run hot and cold in the scoring department. Is not the greatest skater.
CAREER POTENTIAL: Versatile power forward with a defensive conscience.
The downside is that per capgeek: http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=28, he's got 3 years @ 4.5M left on his deal.
Is that too much?
I'd pass on the Hudler for Boyes deal. Hudler's in a contract year and last year is the anomoly rather than the rule as far as his statistics go. I'd guess he's good to go for 60 points, especially if there's injuries up front (and who are we kidding, of course there will be) and he gets some time on Datsyuk's line. Hell, that concussion he gave Cleary in Game 7 against the 2011 Graduating Class of Todd's West Coast Diving School may even mean he sees more ice time, ironically enough. Boyes on the other hand comes with many of the same concerns as Hudler. He's wildly inconsistent and tends to be a bit overly streaky. On top of that, his play has been declining annually. I'd rather hang on to the cheaper guy that's put up 60 points during a contract year before, rather than the more expensive guy who's been on the decline.
@captnorris5 hasnt most of hudlers sucess came with 3rd/4th line minutes? im certain it was that way in 07-08
@captnorris5 Yet both are on a contract year...and I agree that Hulder will do better this year as compared to next. I just think Boyes is an all around better player and, in a year when money is no object, I think Boyes is a better choice.